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Post by RADL Commissioner on May 31, 2010 0:29:54 GMT -5
Responding to some suggestions about the order in which things are done I have made some changes.
Basically April will be used for teams to complete all their own business before we move onto free agents. Giving teams a more clear picture of their finances before they go FA shopping.
The first week of April will also be what I am calling "Tax Free Week" the one and only time teams can cut a player and not incur a cap hit. I wanted it that early because it is a helpful tool but I still think it should be a tough decision.
In April teams will resign vets and franchise players.
Then the whole franchise and RFA bidding then matching process.
One final chance to resign all your own remaining RFA's.
Then all unsigned players are waived by the league, making FA shopping easy.
End of April into May is the 1st blind bidding round.
Then the draft and then it's basically as it was this year.
It is now officially against the rules to waive a player during a blind bidding period. I would have not allowed it before but in writing is usually best.
Some questions I need help with:
We are going to have one percentage cap hit all year but Tax Free Week. We used to pay a 50% hit for waiving a player in season and zero % in the off season.
What is fair year round 10, 20, 25, 30%?
Taxi Squads: Who goes on it and when is settled.
What did people want? Promote in the off season? Claim others in the off season?
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Post by Nerf Herders on May 31, 2010 12:04:54 GMT -5
I vote for no Cap hit in Tax Free week.
Not sure exactly what your asking with the year round question.
I think we should move the Taxi Squad to 7 players reason being I can see some players being on that list for several years abgout 3, only a few rookies R. mathews, J. Best are going to get promoted right away, but guys like Shawn Nelson or Pat White are likely to be there for a few years, and I think we're going to need more room on the TS.
Or an option is we could say forfit a 3rd rounder, and that year you get another TS Slot. Just some thoughts.
I think the time we pick who goes on the TS is good the way it's set now.
I also think we should be able to promote during the off sesason. I had kinda assumed that was the case, since the rules said any time after week 5 of the regular season. I see no reason we should not be able to promote during the off season, it only hurts us by adding cap and years to our roster.
We shouldalso be able to aquire TS player from other players in the off season as well.
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Post by RADL Commissioner on May 31, 2010 15:15:34 GMT -5
You should re-read my post again.
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Post by Nerf Herders on May 31, 2010 16:14:48 GMT -5
U know I can't read steve.
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Post by Nerf Herders on May 31, 2010 16:20:09 GMT -5
Okay, I like things the way they r, 50% during the year, zero during the off season. If ur gonna have a tax free week, per say, make it a month. In which case make it 40% for a year round tax.
The only other thing I want to add now that I've read things is that we should b able to promote or steal from other teams players on TS's from week 6 all the up till the week b4 the season starts.
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Post by RADL Commissioner on May 31, 2010 18:00:53 GMT -5
Your TS idea is simple. I like that. Once it starts in week 5 in just keeps going until the new season. Very good.
Any other ideas fellas?
It's a holiday so no hurry.
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Post by Nerf Herders on May 31, 2010 19:53:25 GMT -5
it's a holiday? Sheet. That was the easiest holiday pay I've ever made.
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Post by Nerf Herders on May 31, 2010 20:08:24 GMT -5
Although S-T-E-V-E i guess we should come up with something that would prevent someone from stealing new rookies before the season starts.
Or is that something we even want to do? Do we want to say rookies drafted in the rookie draft can't be stolen until week 6 of the regular season? Or do we want to leave it as is, that we can steal players of other teams TS's.
Reason I ask, it because right now there are teams with lots of cap room that could potentialy steal say 1st round picks from teams that had one of the 1st few dradt picks. Lets sayBen Tate from the Miners, Eric doesn't have the cap room to aquire him, so if say the Sabers put in a claim for Tate, the Miners either drop 1/2 his team to keep Tate, or the Miners loose their great rookie pick.
Not sure how I feel about it, but we better decide sooner rather than later, cause otherwise, even with the pay raise, Ryan Mathews, Ben Tate, and others have might be on new teams before the season starts, and short of dropping half their team, there's not much owners can do about it.
We either make newly drafted rookies safe till after the roster cut down date.
Or until week 6 of the regular season.
Or we make it open season and some teams will get their great draft picks snatched away from them.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2010 20:44:57 GMT -5
For the most part, I don't have a problem with the current rules that are in place. The only rules that I wanted changed were that the average score of your bench used for ties should not include players on a bye. Also, I wanted to add a 9th starting player.
I would prefer to keep the taxi squad rules as-is. I don't see a compelling reason to change it.
50% cap hit for waiving a player still works for me. Again, what would be the compelling reason to change it?
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Post by RADL Commissioner on May 31, 2010 21:39:16 GMT -5
For the most part, I don't have a problem with the current rules that are in place. The only rules that I wanted changed were that the average score of your bench used for ties should not include players on a bye. Also, I wanted to add a 9th starting player. I would prefer to keep the taxi squad rules as-is. I don't see a compelling reason to change it. 50% cap hit for waiving a player still works for me. Again, what would be the compelling reason to change it? I wasn't looking to rework the TS squad rules. Only to expand when team can activate them in the off season. That because some people thought it would be helpful. No change works for me. I do disagree with the ability of a team to waive an over priced vet with say 3 years left on a deal in the off season a not suffer any hit. Something I need to do shortly. Then it becomes a matter of book keeping. Whatever the cap hit is I'd like it to be the same all year long. If you like 0% cap hit in the off season then we'll need a vote which is fine. I just thougt it's 50% and then zero%. Why not have a compromise of always 25% or whatever we agree on. Maintaining one week in April when, if you have thought it out, you can cut that veteran for free. Also adding you pay that X% each year left in his contract. Again, I'm here to serve you guys too. No change is still on the table.
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Post by cbc on Jun 1, 2010 20:24:26 GMT -5
I would think you should be able to promote anyone from the TS that wasn't drafted this year, anytime during the off season. But I don't like other teams being able to steal them in the off season. But I'd rather keep things the way they are, than make it more complicated.
The 25% cap hit year round sounds good to start with.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2010 20:41:59 GMT -5
I would think you should be able to promote anyone from the TS that wasn't drafted this year, anytime during the off season. But I don't like other teams being able to steal them in the off season. But I'd rather keep things the way they are, than make it more complicated. The 25% cap hit year round sounds good to start with. I agree with the taxi squad assessment here.
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Post by AA on Jun 2, 2010 15:29:15 GMT -5
I like the idea of being able to steal from other taxi squads throughout the year except for rookies drafted within that year. If I really want player X and you can't afford to pay them so you're just keeping them on the TS, why shouldn't I be able to get them and put them on my starting roster? If you really want them then you can pay to keep them. I'm against hording, and this is an extreme example, but a team could theoretically draft high a few years in a row and wind up with 3 or 4 starters on the TS they can't afford to activate because they are over paying for free agents. If you want to sink your salary cap into free agents then you run the risk of losing your TS players. Besides, we are only talking about a handful of players each year that have any real type of salary. It's not like you have to worry that someone is going to steal the 9th pick in the draft that cost you $20 to activate, or a 2nd rounder that cost you $4.
On the cap hit issue for cutting players, I like having it be a heavy hit around 50%. It's your fault you overpaid and then you have to deal with the consequences of that. As long as teams have to keep paying some % of a player they cut for the remaining years, a tax free period is fine with me. One week should be plenty of time to figure that out, not a month, say right before the first round of free agency or franchising players. I think there should always be an exception for a new owner though where in their first off-season they can cut guys without a penalty. I like the idea of a new owner being able to re-shape their roster the way they want and not being hamstrung by a previous owners decisions.
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Post by Nerf Herders on Jun 2, 2010 16:56:38 GMT -5
You always were a softy Pete.
After days of thought I concur with Pete, if people overpay for FA's and they can't afford to add their guys off the TS, then they deserve to lose them.
And again with Pete, maybe I said, it who knows, I am dumb, the rookies we drafted this year shouldn't be able to be stolen of the TS until week 6 of this year, but the players on the TS from last year are fair game, so on and so fourth.
I'd still like to see more slots (hehehe... I said slots) moved to 6 or 7. But I know that's not on Steve's mind right now.
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Post by RADL Commissioner on Jun 2, 2010 18:54:04 GMT -5
I don't want to radically change the rules after teams have decided to spend what they decided to spend. If people did over pay for anyone they did it under the rules that claiming of TS players was only happening in a given time.
So we do need to keep that in mind while we consider changes.
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